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YSK: Brendan Eich left Mozilla over his own homophobic beliefs. He is also a coronavirus denier.
Brave is homophobic Chrome with crypto on top
A good enough reason to ignore Brave tbqh
And they tried to steal money while claiming it was donations for content creators.
Yes, honestly the most damning thing they’ve done, selling out their own users
Fake money
no the donation money was real. they added in buttons for supporting creators who had not opted in, swapped out affiliate links to go through them, and kept the money “in escrow” until the creator signed up. many people never did, and then they just kept that money they were holding on to.
I never liked Brave tbh, something about it felt sketchy with all the crypto stuff
That’s not even the full extent of his homophobia. He also made donations to a politician who said that AIDS is a great thing and will purge the world of gay people.
He also gave an interview about the whole being pressured to leave Mozilla thing, and said he was disappointed in how intolerant of his beliefs Mozilla staff were once they became public knowledge.
Yes, you read that right, a man who wanted to strip gay people of their rights cried about fucking intolerance towards him. Clown.
I could hate JavaScript for free, I’m very thankful Brendan gave me an extra reason
Why do you hate JavaScript?
Fuck Brave. Just use Firefox.
And he inflicted JavaScript upon the world, completely wrecking the World Wide Web. Fucker should burn in Hell for that, let alone the other stuff!
why i use vivaldi
That is worse
Brave is a great browser, specially on older mobile. It is the default browser for the Nobara gaming linux distro, because it’s so good, and recently ranked top tier browser by Pewdiepie.
why would a desktop distro care that a browser works well on mobile? what was their actual reason?
also, we already went over this: that tier list was not his. it was in his video because he was quoting another video. and if he did it fact rank browsers, what was the ranking based on?
you can’t just say things.
I don’t give a shit, to be honest. It’s a question of morality for me.
which of your morals was infringed and when did it happen?
I never used Brave, and I never will because I don’t want to be associated with or support bigotry. It might be the best browser in the world and I might be missing out, but homophobia isn’t cool, so I’m fine with that.
Firefox works great for all my needs. 👍
what event caused you to associate using Brave with supporting bigotry and being homophobic?
caused you to associate using Brave with supporting bigotry
Your comment, that I replied to, replied to this comment. Did you notice what it said? This is something I’ve heard and read on other occasions as well.
being homophobic
I wouldn’t become homophobic, but by using Brave I would feel like I’d be condoning or supporting homophobia and bigotry. And I have no interest in feeling like that.
do you know when that event happened?
Nonsense.
Browsers on iOS are all just Safari, there is no meaningful difference. On older Android FOSS Browser or Fennec + Ublock + Noscript are both faster and more stable than Brave.
i’m glad you accept that Brave is now default on 2 linux distributions
what you say about ios is true, but this is an android community, no?
my experience of using Brave on an s4 mini for almost 10 years was really very good. super-stable and the built-in adblocker made the best use of the limited memory than any other browser
really i was more interested in your description of Brave as an actively homophobic browser
The company was founded and is headed by a homophobic anti-vaxxer. Plus, the browser is not secure and has been involved in several controversies in the oast for things like selling user data and running a crypto scam.
Who is Pewdiepie?
It’s default for Zorin as well now
Go ahead all you want. I’ll never install Brave because it’s chromium based and because of their leadership and their choices.
What do you use? I struggle to not have at least one chromium variant installed for work purposes - I feel like half my jobs’ apps or sites don’t work in Firefox.
I have ungoogled-chromium installed just in case, but have yet to actually require it.
Would this work for those sites? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chrome-mask/
Sadly it seems to be a JavaScript or CSS engine issue :(
graphene os + vanadium is secure and private. Still chromium based though.
If you have to use something chromium based just use chromium or Vivaldi if you like something more customized.
At least ime they both work fine. but no one can really tell you what you should use. I avoid brave hard because I trust Peter Theil less than I would trust an addict to give me back the 100$ I loaned them.
I currently use Vivaldi but I guess I was getting the impression that using chromium in any form was a no-no.
ungoogled chromium or cromite?
i used this piece of crap on windows, and theres always a small brave.exe running in the background even when you disable background running. i have no abiloty to prove its spyware, but doesnt strike confidence.
also we have cromite, librewolf, ironfox, why would i install this crap?
probably an update service. all browsers do it on windows because the os doesn’t handle updates.
fuck their update service. when the browser executed, it can check for a new version like all browsers did for 20 years.
LibreWolf does not exist on Android?
Not in name, but by all means the idea does.
Iron fox is great.
Was my first impression.
However, it is maybe a bit excessively prohibitive in it’s attempts to provide privacy/security.
And there are a few issues that leave some privacy options wide open for some reason.
To the 1st point, they use a couple dozen different blocklists, using uBlock. Those default lists block sites that can test your browser for security and privacy vulnerability. Eg one of the most used and ubiquitous sites: browserleaks.org is blocked.
Which brings me to 2nd point.
I always check webrtc for leaks. In Mozilla/Firefox builds that is
media.peerconnection.enabledin about:config.
In the plethora of blocklists used by ironfox two are conspicuously left unchecked: block webrtc and unbreak webrtc.
And, for whatever reasoning, in about config, yep, peerconnection is enabled. As is webgl.Maybe I don’t get out much, but I have never experienced an issue with any website that required webrtc, webgl, or wrbgpu be enabled. (They are each significant attack surfaces and each leak data you didn’t know was being leaked)
I’m not using iron fox to use teams or make a video call. There is zero reason for it.
And blocking sites that check these has me maybe a little cautious on it really being the thing it says it is.
indeed, i just said this in a more general cross system kinda way
Come on, it’s open source. It has some analytics but definitely not spyware
Come on, it’s open source.
Oh wow, when you put it that way! 🤪
Many types of malware are open source
Are you serious guys? Brave isn’t malware, it’s been checked by thousands.
And several of them are here ITT saying that the browser is sketchy.
Two words for two different things, yes
You should consider thinking about what people say before responding. It will probably lead to improved understanding and more relevant replies on your part.
Says the guy who confused the words “sketchy” and “spyware”
Cool I guess. But I still find Brave to be a sketchy organization with how they have done some of their schemes to make money over the years. So will continue to avoid anything they make.
Brave has a good marketing team.
good, now it can go fuck itself without google’s interference
While continuing to use their own proxies to send your data to google.
Is Brave browser the cryptocoin crap browser? I think I’ve used it for a short time about 2 years ago, before moving to Vivaldi and later Firefox.
I gave Brave a try back in the early days. The Brave wallet was useless and something I didn’t wanted. There wasn’t much to differentiate it from Chrome back then on desktop. On mobile, it has built in Adblock but that’s it. Vivaldi, IMO, bundles in more features for a Chromium based browser.
Either case, I have been on Firefox for multiple years now despite it’s own issues. uBlock Origin is properly supported on it (both desktop and mobile). I think FF(nightly version or Iceraven, a FF fork) is the only browser that allows sideloading of extensions on mobile. Chromium based browsers are way behind in this regard.
I setup brave on my relative’s iOS device because it has anti-tracking builtin. But would welcome suggestions of iOS browsers that preserve privacy.
If Apple didn’t effectively prevent browser extensions I would setup Firefox with privacy badger, and uBlock origin with an anti-malware list.
Firefox can be installed from Mozilla and managed by Obtainium. Much better option all the way around.
Use Fennec with security and privacy tweaks
So they can send your data to Microsoft instead of both.
I wish Firefox would do this. I’m stubbornly always favoring it for a non-Chromium browser
fennec is on f-droid.
To add to the others, Fennec is a fantastic replacement and has extension support.
Also heard good things about LibreWolf. Mull had some buggy behaviours I couldn’t seem to configure away from so I guess YMMV, but that was my experience.
Have you tried Obtanium? Allows to download and update from github, among other sources. There’s even a site with source configs that’s very helpful, and includes firefox.
https://apps.obtainium.imranr.dev/
Alternatively, Fennec is basically firefox and it’s on f-droid.
There are tons of Firefox forks there?
Support from the primary source of development is what I’d prefer. That’s where the money is. Mozilla is the only one that could actually have a sizable marketing budget along with employing dozens to hundreds of software developers
They are soft forks not hard forks
They base on upstream
All of those forks get support from the primary source of development. Do you know what a fork is?
Is your first instinct talking to people is to be a dick? Forks pull changes downstream and hopefully push changes upstream but if you want to see either the core Firefox web browser engine or F-Droid reach more popularity, you need Mozilla support so I would rather support Mozilla directly than any fork
I’m not being a dick, I am trying to help you.
My bad if I took your words the wrong way. I gave my answer for why I prefer to use the primary application, because of funding, and your response to me sounded like dismissive condescension. You may not have meant condescension but it reads like dismissive condescension to me like I’ve heard plenty of whether in or out of the software industry or academia
Brave’s a bunch of marketing/advertising driven crypto"currency" i.e., pyramid scheme peddlers desperate for greater fools.
↳ “Kill yourself.” —Bill Hicks.On a computer either use uBlock Origin-included LibreWolf for stability and privacy, Zen browser for power users, and on Android one can use Fennec; all of them Firefox derivatives.
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✍︎ arscyni.cc: modernity ∝ nature.Good for them
i used Vivaldi because it’s good & has built in adblocker/tracker blocker that i can customize the hell out of it with tons of custom filter
It is also proprietary
That is great. Been using Brave for years.
