I have 2nd hand pixel 8a with grapheneos and i havent putted sim card in it since i have it, in my country i have to have registered sim card, iam afraid of IMEI be linked with sim card and once i put it in im f**ked, the reason i need to put card is to verify bank which need sim card being in device.

I did some research but became dumb from too much information

(sorry for my english :D)

Edit: also i want to be private because of my feature, idk if i wont live in country where propaganda is normal

  • JASN_DE
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    1215 days ago

    iam afraid of IMEI be linked with sim card and once i put it in im f**ked

    Fucked in which way?

    • DIY KARMA KITOP
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      515 days ago

      Like my name and things releated to me will be linked to imei, i know its kinda schizo, but i dont want to be easy to find. I didnt commit and crime or anything, as i said kinda schizo thing

      • @[email protected]
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        915 days ago

        Do you mean you’d be linked to potential crimes of the previous owner? Well yeah there’s a slim chance but then you show authorities a proof of purchase.

        Or if you mean your personal privacy, that’s non existent at the moment you connect to a cell network with a registered sim

        • DIY KARMA KITOP
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          215 days ago

          Sorry, i dont really understand the second thing u said, what i want is to have phone which isnt really linked to me, want to be propaganda-proof, i use tor, signal, probably i already leaked my device so its findable to me as a person, but if i link once sim card with imei it is linked forever, right? I mightn’t be clear, sorry for that, if u need morw information i am open to answer

  • who
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    1015 days ago

    If you put a SIM into a phone that has power and cell access, then an association between the SIM and the phone’s IMEI will be recorded somewhere.

    If your identity is linked to that SIM, then it’s only one more step to link your identity to the phone, of course. You’ll have to decide for yourself whether that’s unsafe for you.

    • @[email protected]
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      214 days ago

      In Europe that would not be permanently stored but is would be for a while indeed. A few years after the subscription’s validity at least.

  • Ulrich
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    15 days ago

    First, it’s very much not a “schizo” thing, and such people might find that offensive so you might consider a better word choice.

    Second, if it’s possible in your area you can pick up a pre-paid SIM from Best Buy or something with cash. They could still possibly link that back to you with cameras in the store so put on a nice medical mask and some glasses and a hat. Shove a rock in your shoe so they can’t read your gait.

    Yes, putting a SIM in your device that you are registered with will identify that phone as yours. But you can just take it out when you’re done. Just have to keep it because you may need that phone number again.

    You can try getting a number from somewhere like Cloaked but they can usually detect if it’s a VoIP.

    Unfortunately a phone number is something society expects you to have in order to participate.

    • DIY KARMA KITOP
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      315 days ago

      sorry for the word schizo, i said it because im just a normie who want to be undetectable (as i said before propaganda-proof), i dont want to offend anybody, i will look into prepaid card more, thanks for advice :)

    • @[email protected]
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      315 days ago

      How about E-sim? Then you don’t need to enter a physical store at all, let alone dance to the cameras

      • DIY KARMA KITOP
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        315 days ago

        yeah, but wont it be the same? probably sim and esim will somehow link my phone and my personality will be linked into phone

        • @[email protected]
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          214 days ago

          Yeah but the difference is is that you can buy esim more privately. You can do it online from your home. There are services that provide anonymous (ie via crypto) esims with mobile data, calling, sms, even roaming. If I remember correctly, Silent Link is one of them

          • DIY KARMA KITOP
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            114 days ago

            But will it be safe? Wouldnt that mean that somebody who owns this card would somehow have access to my device?

            • @[email protected]
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              113 days ago

              I’ve no idea what you’re talking about. What card? Esim is witbout any physical card, right? It’s a code you enter in your phone so it automatically connects to the provider.

              I don’t think this is less “safe” as you put it. Perhaps a tiny tiny bit, but I don’t really know. Safe enough I guess

      • Ulrich
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        215 days ago

        I dunno, I’d be more comfortable being able to physically disconnect the device.

        • @[email protected]
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          114 days ago

          Maybe, although a good custom ROM may help you out there. Also, removable batteries are coming which may also suit your need of killing off all connectivity. EU may have mandated it

  • stupid_asshole69 [none/use name]
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    113 days ago

    You can’t use the cell network and preserve your anonymity without committing identity theft or fraud crimes or without someone else willingly laundering sims with you.

    It’s almost always better to treat your phone and cell network usage as not anonymous unless you only need to do a few specific things.

  • @[email protected]
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    -115 days ago

    Keep in mind that a lot of countries have introduced ID requirements on stuff like phones due to people like terrorists and drug traffickers buying them as burners.