When all you hire are web devs everything becomes a docker
Embrace <-- You are here
Extend
Extinguish
Fuck Apple
You’re doing it wrong. I want to run a macOS container on Linux
But why?
Certain application only has Mac OS or Windows version.
How the GPU support, does it support Metal?!
Proud of you!
This isn’t a Linux post.
Mac and Linux feel like cousins than ultra far apart at times.
Ok. So now both Apple and Microsoft are distributors of the Linux kernel. What a timeline.
it’s the year of the linux desktop without the year of the linux desktop.
It’s everyday the year of Linux !
Cool. Podman Desktop should be easier after this. Presumably, it’s still a Linux VM driven by something written by Apple instead of qemu.
No macOS containers though. Being able to spin up macOS containers would have been nice for builds and isolating things like pkgsrc.
*Cries in 8GB Macbook*
If containers are part of your work then you wouldn’t buy a 8GB RAM unupgradable device anyway.
You’re right. I wouldn’t, but someone did for me!
If it’s a work computer, tell your IT department it’s getting in the way of your job.
Bad IT departments are a PITA.
No, but the company’s IT would buy a 16GB Macbook for you that isn’t even initially compatible with the images/containers you need to work with. Ask me how I know >.>
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So I guess now you can run some games.
Yeah, about that… Heroic game launcher is free and can run a loooooooot of pc games. It now runs pc steam directly.
Noice!
I wonder if they’re going to allow GPU access from inside the VMs.
Apple being Apple, the answer is probably yes. But realistically there’s going to be some stupid hurdle in the way and because they make it a PITA nobody’s really going to do it.
Which really sucks because the massive GPU and “unified memory” is incredible when they work in conjunction.
Like, you can use the GPU on Linux…with Metal
virtio-gpu with Vulkan pass through for the VM with a Vulkan to Metal translator in host user space. There are various talks about this including at KVM forum: https://kvm-forum.qemu.org/2024/The_many_faces_of_virtio-gpu_F4XtKDi.pdf
Is Apple’s tech going to be using KVM machinery then, or are you just saying that it’s possible in general?
No the Apple hypervisor is called hvf, but projects like rust-vmm and QEMU can control and service guests run on that hypervisor. No KVM required.
Oh that’s cool! I thought virtio and such were KVM-specific things. I have never been super clear on the relationship between QEMU and the hypervisor itself, like where one ends and the other begins.
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It is based on Unix yeah but Linux and Unix are different enough.
[email protected] It is certified to be UNIX, yes. But Linux is not UNIX. Not that it would matter if Linux was certified to be UNIX anyhow. UNIX is a certification that you go through and pay for. The kernel beneath is not necessarily binary compatible with other UNIX operating systems.
Can you run amd64 containers?
It supports Rosetta2, so yes.
Sweet, that will help me, although it takes away my last blocker allowing me to use my Linux box as my primary blocker.
I guess I will have to comain about performance or something.
Container and Ai ! Now you get the sparkle junkie virus, guys!
